Axis 37mm HQ At

[MEFISTO]

Limit HE shut to one (same as allies 37mm AT. Why? It is too funny to watch how players mage to flank the MG and the 37mm AT save the day with multiple shuts, not fair since Allies AT can only shut one time. I have watched Axis players making multiple (two or three of this to counter infantry)

[Walderschmidt]

I honestly have mixed feelings about it. I haven't used it much so I don't know how the suppression stuff works but I think reducing a little accuracy and adding suppression is a good compromise.

Wald

[kwok]

Just me as a player, I know that AT gun is bullshit. But as a balancing dev perspective what’s the counter balance? Axis units early game are slightly more expensive than Allies. Nerfing this might have some tough unintended consequences

[Consti255]

honestly, ill rather have axis infantry cheaper than this thing beeing such a pain in the ass.
Its just bullshit that it sometimes can just hold positions without ANY support against combined forces.
I abused it so often and got abused from it.
Useing it feels unfair while getting your whole thought out push getting denied feels absolutely terrible.
Not to mention how strong this thing is in countering units inside buildings so early on and so cost effective.

A different approach would be HE swap for it for atleast 50 ammo. With a noticeable cooldown between ammo swaps so it stops beeing a swiss knife as it is right now. HE would have its range reduced by 5 or 10.

[Walderschmidt]

honestly, ill rather have axis infantry cheaper than this thing beeing such a pain in the ass.
Its just bullshit that it sometimes can just hold positions without ANY support against combined forces.
I abused it so often and got abused from it.
Useing it feels unfair while getting your whole thought out push getting denied feels absolutely terrible.
Not to mention how strong this thing is in countering units inside buildings so early on and so cost effective.

A different approach would be HE swap for it for atleast 50 ammo. With a noticeable cooldown between ammo swaps so it stops beeing a swiss knife as it is right now. HE would have its range reduced by 5 or 10.

Now that would be an interesting compromise.

Wald

[MEFISTO]

honestly, ill rather have axis infantry cheaper than this thing beeing such a pain in the ass.
Its just bullshit that it sometimes can just hold positions without ANY support against combined forces.
I abused it so often and got abused from it.
Useing it feels unfair while getting your whole thought out push getting denied feels absolutely terrible.
Not to mention how strong this thing is in countering units inside buildings so early on and so cost effective.

A different approach would be HE swap for it for atleast 50 ammo. With a noticeable cooldown between ammo swaps so it stops beeing a swiss knife as it is right now. HE would have its range reduced by 5 or 10.

Bro, this 37mm is an AT gun, it just need to be nerfed or at least be at same level or similar to Allies 37mm. The solution would be limit this HE shut to one but reducing the cooldown, so anytime you use it you pay for it.

[Walderschmidt]

The 25 muni he is really good but everyone seems to forget that the 37mm pak has AP rounds (which are now equipped freely) that can even take out PIVs with some regularity.

The pak can barely stand up to shermans if they turn around, let alone frontally.

Wald

[MarKr]

Increase scatter area and significantly drop the HE accuracy against moving infantry? That way if the PaK shoots HE at infantry camping in cover/buildings, it will be as effective as it is now but if the infantry charges against the PaK, the gun will miss a lot.

Just an idea, though.

[MEFISTO]

Increase scatter area and significantly drop the HE accuracy against moving infantry? That way if the PaK shoots HE at infantry camping in cover/buildings, it will be as effective as it is now but if the infantry charges against the PaK, the gun will miss a lot.

Just an idea, though.

I Like this idea.

[Walderschmidt]

Increase scatter area and significantly drop the HE accuracy against moving infantry? That way if the PaK shoots HE at infantry camping in cover/buildings, it will be as effective as it is now but if the infantry charges against the PaK, the gun will miss a lot.

Just an idea, though.

I like it. Put it in beta?

What are the range brackets now?

Wald

[tarakancheg]

Why not just make it a purchasable upgrade, while retaining old stats, it will make WM manage ammo early game while not nerfing their actual early game power level.