More accurate descriptions are needed

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More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 12 Sep 2018, 18:03

Hello there.

Im very pleased with the 5.1.5 version of the mod. This version contains the least amount of bugs so far. Despite of this I think some other parts of the mod can be improved upon like the descriptions of units and abilities because they sometimes provide incorrect information. Few examples:

- Wehr/Def Doc: Description of the Pantherturm Bunker doctrinal unlock is stating that I will gain access to the 75mm AT Emplacement which is not true because this emplacement was exchanged for 88mm one.

- PE: Schwimmwagen: Description of this unit is stating that it is unarmed which is not true because it is actually armed with mg 42.

- US/Airborne Doc: Weapon Support Center/101st Weapon Supply Upgrade: This upgrade states that after purchase Thompson, Johnson and BAR upgrades available for the 101st Paratroopers will be cheaper but there is no BAR upgrade. M1 Garands are available instead of it.

These are just a few examples. I bet there is more then that. Will you eventually rework these descriptions in the future so they will provide more accurate information? It would be really appreciated.

I love your work.

Keep it up and take care.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby MarKr » 12 Sep 2018, 20:46

Hi and welcome to the forum!

Yes, some descriptions are outdated because we made some changes and did not adjust the texts. If you feel like you would like to help with it you can get access to the ingame texts, look up what is off and correct it. Wolf grants access to the google sheets but if you sent me your gmail adress in PM, I will ask him to give you access. ;)
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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 21 Sep 2018, 18:38

Hi again.

Sorry for the late response but I was quite busy lately. Im afraid that I will have no time to go through all the ingame texts and fix them myself so you do not need to bother sending me anything at this time but whenever I will have some spare time I will play a few games and post my findings in this thread. Heres what I found lately:

- Wehr/Blitz Doc: Pz. Kpfw. IV Mass Production: Description of this doctrinal unlock is saying that Pz IV tanks will be reduced in price which is only partialy true because this reduction affects only H version and not the J one. I think this information should be provided to the player.

- Wehr/Def Doc: Grenadiers: Stielgranate 24 with fragmentation sleeve: Description of this ability is saying that these grenades can be used only from cover which is not true. I was able to use them outside of cover without problem. Is this a bug or misleading description?

- PE/Infantry Support Center: Nearly every upgrade ( if not all ) which can be purchased in this building affect also Assault Pioneers but there is absolutely no mention of that in the description of these upgrades.

This is it for now. I will play some more games later on and if I will find anything then I will let you know.

Cya.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 24 Sep 2018, 11:05

- PE/SE: Light Observation Halftrack: Description of this vehicle says that "the lightly armored observation vehicle is capable of scouting terrain, while stationery ( should be stationary ) terrain ( this word should be removed because it have no purpose to be here ) and to coordinate artillery strikes".

- US/Inf Doc: Weapon Support Center: Improved M6A3C Missile for bazooka affects also Close Quarters Squad while the description of this upgrade mentions only AT Squad. Which other infantry squad is this upgrade affecting? Its every bazooka in every squad or only specific squads? More accurate description is needed.

- PE/SE: Beobachtungspanzer IV ausf J: Artillery Feuerleit Barrage: Description of this ability states that it forces all 105mm and 88mm on-map artillery to fire on targeted location but there is no 88mm arty in this doctrine. This ability is working only with Wespe 105mm and Hummel 150mm therefore the 88mm part should be exchanged for 150mm.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 25 Dec 2018, 11:41

Should I bother to report anything related to the descriptions in the future because even after the latest patch none of these reported issues was fixed. Where is the problem? Is it really that hard to correct a few lines of text?

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby MarKr » 25 Dec 2018, 11:52

You can keep adding stuff here, it is good as a list of descriptions to change/fix when we get to it.

It is not really "hard" but in many cases it is more than "fix the line". E.g. the Beobachtungs panzer has this text because it shares the ability with WM Feuerleit - they use the same ability file and thus the same texts (which are accurate for WM but not for PE). And fixing this means creating a new ability file, assigning to it new texts and then changing path to the ability for every unit that uses it. Which , again, is not too much work but still can lead to problems if you forget to adjust some units.
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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 27 Dec 2018, 22:10

Alright then I will keep posting in this thread. I do not want to pressure you into anything. I just wanted to know if you are taking these posts into consideration. Thats all.

Here is what I found lately:

- Panther G ( terror ) and A ( blitzkrieg ) versions have external MG 42 but there is no mention of that in the description of these units. I think this is pretty important information to know because that top mounted MG can tear some serious ass.

- When I was playing as Wehr/BK I wanted to secure a chokepoint with MG bunker but there was no MG upgrade available for me to pick after I built it despite the description was clearly stating that I will be able to pick MG, aid station or repair station upgrade. Only repair station was available.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby MarKr » 27 Dec 2018, 23:32

You can have only one bunker upgraded with the MG, the upgrade description mentions that there can only be one MG upgrade.
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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 28 Dec 2018, 00:45

Well that was my one and only bunker so that MG upgrade should be there but it wasnt. There was only repair station upgrade. I had no problem with the bunker in defense doctrine though. MG upgrade was there with all the other upgrades.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 01 Jan 2019, 17:16

- PE/Luftwaffe: Veterancy training is also affecting Gebirgsjaegers but there is no mention of that in the description of this ability.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Shanks » 01 Jan 2019, 21:16

the updates of mg 42 can only have them in the def doctrine of WM, and you can have it in two bunkers, one will cost you 50 and the other 100 ammunition, the 100 ammunition also enables you mortar artillery (if you have mortars, can shoot farther thanks to the bunker, assuming the mortar is too far back,all available mortars can fire in the designated area, no matter where they are, the ability is in the bunker )

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 01 Jan 2019, 23:56

Shanks wrote:the updates of mg 42 can only have them in the def doctrine of WM, and you can have it in two bunkers, one will cost you 50 and the other 100 ammunition, the 100 ammunition also enables you mortar artillery (if you have mortars, can shoot farther thanks to the bunker, assuming the mortar is too far back,all available mortars can fire in the designated area, no matter where they are, the ability is in the bunker )


I know that I can upgrade my bunker with MG in Wehr/Def doctrine. The problem is the misleading description of this bunker in other doctrines which states that I can upgrade it with MG which is not true and therefore this description should be corrected. Its not fun to waste 550 MP for a bunker which you think will protect a chokepoint just to found out that after you built it there is no MG upgrade.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 12 Jan 2019, 18:05

- US/Armor Doc: Jeep with the 75mm M20 recoilless rifle have same exact description as regular .30 cal Jeep which states that it excels at hunting down enemy snipers. This is obviously not true.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 13 Jan 2019, 00:10

- US/Inf Doc: Fortified observation post: This post have pretty crucial ability. It can reinforce nearby squads. I discovered this just by accident because there was absolutely no mention about this in the description. Part of the text also mention that this emplacement can heal nearby troops which is not true. It heals only squads garrisoned inside when you activate medical supplies ability.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Walderschmidt » 13 Jan 2019, 00:23

^Mindblown!

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 13 Jan 2019, 00:31

Walderschmidt wrote:^Mindblown!


I know right?

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 14 Jan 2019, 14:07

- Wehr/Blitz Doc: Infantry assault team ability can spawn stormtroopers from neutral buildings but there is absolutely no info about this. Description only mentions off map reinforcements. This is pretty important to know mainly when you play on big maps because why would I summon stormtroopers from the edge of the map when I can do that from neutral buildings on the front? Same goes for demolition stormtroopers. Please provide this info in game.

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Re: More accurate descriptions are needed

Postby Beast Slayer » 21 Feb 2019, 13:55

- US/Inf Doc: .50 cal emplacement: Description of this emplacement states that it is equipped with .303 Vickers MG which is obviously not true.

- Brits/Royal Artillery Doc: Staghound: Description of this unit states that this is a command unit which improves effectiveness of nearby tanks which is also not true. Its just ordinary armored car like Greyhound.

I already created post about Staghound over here:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3135

After it was clarified that the description is wrong Im reposting this issue over here so all the problems associated with the descriptions will be under one thread.


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