Re: 5.1.6 beta3
Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 17:29
too ridiculous
Warhawks97 wrote:wow, so many informations.
I can fully understand your arguments...
mofetagalactica wrote:Was the brumbauer buffed after arty changes accidntly?
MarKr wrote:mofetagalactica wrote:Was the brumbauer buffed after arty changes accidntly?
Can you specify what behavior you mean? I mean, it hasn't been touched so I'm quite curious what you mean...
Mr. FeministDonut wrote:Don't be so agressive big man, I just wanted to say that sherman historicaly could penetrate Stug reliable, why not to make Sherman in something more useful when its being compared to mighty stug that can do in AT and AI, when sherman only in AI
Shanks wrote:Mr. FeministDonut wrote:Don't be so agressive big man, I just wanted to say that sherman historicaly could penetrate Stug reliable, why not to make Sherman in something more useful when its being compared to mighty stug that can do in AT and AI, when sherman only in AI
the sherman 75 mm can destroy panzer "H" ... you want more power than that?
Everything seems aggressive to you ... are you a girl or what?
Shanks wrote:the problem is that doc armor can mass produce the sherman M4 + M10 without unblocking CP, you would have quite good units in the middle stage of the game, it would be a big problem for WM, not to mention that you can bring the jumbo only with MP ... but I'm not really against it, but it could cause a huge imbalance
Warhawks97 wrote:Shanks wrote:the problem is that doc armor can mass produce the sherman M4 + M10 without unblocking CP, you would have quite good units in the middle stage of the game, it would be a big problem for WM, not to mention that you can bring the jumbo only with MP ... but I'm not really against it, but it could cause a huge imbalance
what? where is a mass production for 0 CP? havent found it yet. All i know is that stugs can mass produce.
Big Problem for WM? What? Perhaps consider def doc when expecting lots of armor?
Dont get me wrong now, i am fine with the 75 mm sherman and its 15-20% frontal pen vs stugs.
Just your statment is wrong. There is no 0 CP mass prod in game (except for stugs that are kind of mass production thing at default which isnt such a big deal for me) and WM does not struggle when the enemie armor consists only of tanks.
Warhawks97 wrote:Alright, but even with mass prod upgrade the sherman costs as much as a stug III. Just saying and shermans cost a lot of upkeep while stugs does not.
As i said, i dont want any changes, just correcting statments.
And WH does not fear tanks alone except you go BK doc.
Mr. FeministDonut wrote:What is the reason for limiting US upkeep to then force player buying supply yard upgrades?
Mr. FeministDonut wrote:Warhawks97 wrote:Alright, but even with mass prod upgrade the sherman costs as much as a stug III. Just saying and shermans cost a lot of upkeep while stugs does not.
As i said, i dont want any changes, just correcting statments.
And WH does not fear tanks alone except you go BK doc.
What is the reason for limiting US upkeep to then force player buying supply yard upgrades?
Warhawks97 wrote:Mr. FeministDonut wrote:Warhawks97 wrote:Alright, but even with mass prod upgrade the sherman costs as much as a stug III. Just saying and shermans cost a lot of upkeep while stugs does not.
As i said, i dont want any changes, just correcting statments.
And WH does not fear tanks alone except you go BK doc.
What is the reason for limiting US upkeep to then force player buying supply yard upgrades?
that way you can adjust factions to be either good in early or mid stage. In current set up the US would die without supply yard in the late stage.
Thats also a reason (one of many) why US faction sucks in coh2. You share the same upkeep but you dont get competetive units.
So simple logic: Axis have "one more tier up", us gets more units later and easier army maintanance.
mofetagalactica wrote:One thing we could thing to fix things like this would be to increase the MP income instead of upkeep everytime you upgrade your supply yard, since it just changing upkeep and having a low amount of units in PVP its the common thing for usa in the mid-late game wich isn't really a huge benefict and waste of res since your units get blow up so easily because of the extensive axis arsenal.
Mr. FeministDonut wrote:Also, Sherman 75mm could easily penetrate Panzer 4 H armor, as it lowered plate was only 50mm.
While Jumbo was inpenetratable even by Tigers and Panthers in the frontal armor. So I don't get why shermans here are really underperforming, crushing even jumbo with AP rounds by Stugs