Super Pershing last stand?

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Super Pershing last stand?

Postby Tiger1996 » 13 Feb 2018, 17:22

Axis

Me -> Blitz doctrine.

Powder -> Tank Hunter doctrine.

VS

Allied

Wurf -> Armor doctrine.

The New BK Champion -> RAF doctrine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhIkdGF_74s
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Despite my heavy casualties, we were still able to push our opponents back to base.. but then a Super Pershing appeared, causing havoc and delaying our victory... Replay file attached in the video description.

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Re: Super Pershing last stand?

Postby Warhawks97 » 19 Feb 2018, 14:17

I had the time now to watch more of that game.

But a few things i dont get:

1. Why getting tiger?
2. Why did you play literally without spotters. I would never get a tiger without having an idea what my enemie has
3. Why you guys didnt simply continue to get out Panzer IV J´s, Hetzers and 20 mm armed vehicles. Those are just lovely on this map bc you can rush wherever you want. Pumas fast turret rotation makes it to be superioir to any other vehicle on this map. You could have rushed these damn 17 pdrs without that those could have fired a single shot. Recons and light vehicles. Everything else can be done by Panzerschrecks and hidden TD´s.
4. Why using so often that res trade. I mean there was no kind of emergency nor was there "a right moment" where you need a certain unit urgently. Like when i see a moment created in chaos that demands a Panther now (and not one min later) to ultimately finish my opponents. I think that was some sort of miss res managment. For example you could have created chaos with pumas and Tank IV J and ine one certain moment using res trade to quickly get the finisher units.
5. When the SP came and pushed forward, why didnt you just keep attacking the base with your masses of tanks. The SP cant push one side and defend at the same time. Its called binding enemie forces and ressources. You throw away the controle for now reason and fought the threat directly. Furthermore you could have used simple "offensive camp" tactics. Hidding IV/70 or Jagdpanthers, Schreck squads into houses (i mean you had billions of res) or simply double panther that single silly tank. But the best idea both of you got was long range shot and a even slower Jagdtiger. I Jagpanther has a guranteed penetration with AP from ambush and able to oneshot sp. From a range of 75. Additionally IVV70´s could be brought in. And the best units that came to counter SP was to build a unit to which the SP is supposed to be the counter?
6. Try to understand BK as chess game instead of a boxing fight.

At min 35-36: I think this is what ive been saiyng all day long what pisses me off so often. After 20 mins usually axis do simply start bombarding every suspected area. They dont need to have an idea what is where. They simply start bombarding the entire maps. Not bc they have to, bc they fucking can. With their 0 CP, cheap available far reaching arty that is spread over all docs but Luftwaffe. And this kills all the fun. No matter how nice the opening game was with dynamic movments. No matter how good you encountered axis and positioned yourself.... The "map clustering" brings everything back to the initial situation right after game start.

On top of that i was betting all the time that the left side is free so far (just a 17 pdr and single inf squad but 17 pdr moved the other side). I would have got my beloved Puma, perhaps even two and rushing everything. Then following with volks and stug or Panzer IV J of which there could have been dozens already. But nope... lets use arty.

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Re: Super Pershing last stand?

Postby Tiger1996 » 19 Feb 2018, 20:00

I think the Tiger tank was totally worth it in that game, and I was still able to spam Panzer4s as well as Ostwinds, I always bring Tiger1 against Armor.
Also had some Stugs via the off-map support... I lacked spotters, true.. but I felt like there was nothing to spot for anyway. Since I already knew where his stuff were hiding all the time! Though, those Marine Commandos surely wouldn't have been as deadly if I used some spotters.
Lastly, I think the RAF airstrikes were far more deadly than my single Maultier truck though! We lost so much inf cause of these airplanes...


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