SS is technically an elite unit in game, yes. But i consider PE in general as an elite faction or rather being "the elite part of the axis faction" and should thus have no weak cannonfoder units.
And yes, techincally Luftwaffe belongs to wehrmacht actually and Terror would be more logical in the PE but anways. We got the docs from vcoh.
Thing is about Luft that old devs gave them everything luftwaffe units once used or got attached to them. They fought with gebis, most famously in crete, but they also got once a few dozens old panther D tanks (that unit had iirc Göring in its name).
So Luftwaffe here is a mix of stuff that historically once did something together with Luftwaffe forces but nothing that was a key part of it.
Gebis and luftwaffe forces fought from 42/43 untill the last days of war heavy defensive battles only and got deployed everywhere where the defensive battle was most intense.
So Luftwaffe should/can stay more defensively orientated i would say. It doesnt need a panther, obviously, bc that didnt belong to their main aspects.
So i can agree to this
kwok wrote:Okay, I see why warhawks prefers to keep gebirgs as an existing unit. But, if it is that case, then I think there needs to absolutely be more distinction between gebirgs and fallsj. For example, fallsj would not get any defensive buffs at all leaving gebirgs the more defensive oriented in role and unlocked alongside the fallsj vet unlock.
Removing gebirgs was more of a unit consolidation, not because I think gebirgs are specifically remove worthy. The key important part that I hope is looked into more is the fact that I worked in more progressive and incremental CP unlock choices rather than having gebirgs and fallsj drop in as uber units from the start.
Thats why i think we should keep the gebis fallis combo.
They dont need to drop as rambos right away dominating simply every infantry engagment. They would keep their current equipment but boosts would be seperated in unlocks.
The Fallis get a vet 1 upgrade and also the 25% damage reduction bc all get that buff to their vet upgrade, let it be AB, storms, Rangers now, Commandos defensive vet upgrade etc.
The Gebis would be in a sperate defensive branch, call in- unit (not parachute) and having a defensive training unlock like def doc (perhaps not moving required).
They would join the battle with Standard G43´s which all can get an scope upgrade (or two of them, idk). Old kch could upgrade also scopes on their STG and historically every G43 had a quite advanced attachment rail where you could mount special gunsights easily.
That way gebis call in would drop a bit down in cost since it cant drop anywhere and since it would need CP unlock to get them as strong as they are now and ammo investment to get accurate fast shooting rifles.
The pioneers would also be call in. Cant remember that luftwaffe enigs, which were in this case technically airplane engineers that had either no more airplanes to maintain due to lack of spare parts/fuel and got thus moved to frontlines, dropped down from planes.