Inf cost adjustments

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Warhawks97
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Inf cost adjustments

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According to the new cost of Grens with new upgrades available and etc tree upgrade we do need some adjustments. People wrote in steam that axis (def and terror) are now all the time on the push with double grens, stgs+schreck and their doctrinal boosts (training).
They do own every basic allied inf easily and even the elites in early till mid game. People (3 till now) expressed that issue. I will mainly regard to brits.

The brits had the advantage on long term of very cheap reinforce cost and commandos were cheaper than grens to stand them in early game. Right now grens with new cost and upgrades and weapons are absolutely superior to them and commandos can stand a chance in late game with vet and weapon upgrades. So i want to suggest some changes:


CW sappers: cost drop from 315 to 300.
CW Inf section: Build cost drop from 435 to 375 MP and reinforce cost from 28 to 31.
Commandos should have weapon upgrades available. At least sten squad should be able to upgrade two brens. This upgrade will be removed when RAF sten commandos receive those weapons by default with their tectree upgrade.
US rifle squad reinforce cost drop from 24 to 20.
Regarding to Boys AT topic that just occured drop those also from 270to 220 mp build cost (and reinforce cost accordingly)
Edit: RE combat sappers from 450 to 400 at least. They get upgraded reps first after tec unlock but die pretty fast. Build cost of 400 (and glider drop accordingly seems neccessary)


Thats in order to rebalance the infantry a bit.

We just reached the goal to make grens much more appealing and much more used. Mission successfull. Now we should do the same for CW and US basic inf (commandos belong not to that but anyway).
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Re: Inf cost adjustments

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People wrote in steam that axis (def and terror) are now all the time on the push with double grens, stgs+schreck and their doctrinal boosts (training).

You say this applies to def doc too? Wouldn't it be better to switch def doc grenadiers back to what they were before the patch (means no MP44)? As you said they use the weapons for a constant push which is something that a doctrine centered around defense shouldn't have.
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MarKr wrote:
People wrote in steam that axis (def and terror) are now all the time on the push with double grens, stgs+schreck and their doctrinal boosts (training).

You say this applies to def doc too? Wouldn't it be better to switch def doc grenadiers back to what they were before the patch (means no MP44)? As you said they use the weapons for a constant push which is something that a doctrine centered around defense shouldn't have.



ive been writting that somwehere. Just faced def doc grens with training and stgs and they are pretty strong. Esspecially as def training doesnt take many cps and stgs available from right the beginning. They are somwehow like PE heavy assault squads just cheaper and with schrecks in a defense doc.

So to undeline the defense puprose what about giving them ability for two lmgs instead stgs? maybe Mp40? or simply Lmg 42 for 75 ammo instead 100. I am thinking in that direction.
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Warhawks is right. With the new addons to grenadiers allies infantry suffers a lot, especially brits, which lack close-combat weaponry. Only RAF can fight on axis infantry.
RA has only infantry section, which are ok, but you cant really afford upgrades of brens since you use your ammo for artillery purpose, but this infantry type units are very uneffective nowadays, because of constant push of def/terror grenadiers (AND BRITISH MGs do not bother them at all!!). Another unit they can build is commandos for 450, which I won't commend - their purpose is just to feed german units apparently :). British sappers have the same infantry issue and useless tanks.
Def wm grenadiers stg must go, only terror should have them acctually. Brits MGs need a desperate buff.

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Re: Inf cost adjustments

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Just reduce the 3 stgs for def and blitzkrieg to 2 and from 6 for terror to 4, this will reduce 1/3 of their offensive power. Or replace the stgs with mp40's since ofer 1 mil of them were built vs 400k stgs but in blitzkrieg stgs are more predominant which is historical inaccurate. I also agree with lowering the reinforce cost for basic infantry like Warhawks97 suggested.

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