Charles Vane wrote:Forget the tiger. panther is better in every aspect except rear/side armor
the tigers design was outdated in 43 and only was able to beat the IS 2 on Long range because of better optics and more accuracy. but then only with luck or APCR ammo on short range the tiger was nothing compared to the IS 2
panther on the other Hand had more pen and better armor then the tiger and an even more accurate gun.
panther mass production would have been much smarter then keeping the tiger design until end of 44 and then building KTs...
Even if Germany was fighting a 1-front war, that doesn't change that Soviet technology was better than German technology at the end
wait what? do you really want to argue about german tech? do you really want to compare what Germans had after fighting several nations and mention "even if" how could you know? without war in the west it may had other results. and IS 2 smashed everything? I think that a panther would disagree.
"And to top it all off, if the US couldn't get a breakthrough in France, then Germany would have been turned into a radioactive wasteland. The allies had nuclear weapons! Which, by the way, were built with GERMAN scientists that you scared away because they were Jews. The Japs put up a better fight than Germany. We were so afraid of invading Japan that we dropped an atomic bomb on them."
I think you Need a bit help in School with history hm? PM me in steam I can refresh your history knowlege a bit.
"allies won the war" weak Argument. build your own mod and give them a win button. arguments like this are in a multiplayer game where both factions have a Chance to win so damn off..
Thats true. Would have been much better producing only Panthers and Jagdpanthers, hetzers and Stugs instead ressource, working and maintanance intensive tigers and heavier Tanks.
Also Russian Tanks had been easy produced, got improved over the time (even with radio sometimes^^) but at all axis had better tanks with the Panther. Russian Tanks could have been more effective with better gunsights. ISU and Is had big guns but bad optics and very long reload times. Tiger crews had been usually the best axis tank crews and sometimes tanks even beat superior numbers of IS 2 tanks simply by better shooting, moving, teamwork, communication and faster reload. Also big russian guns had limited ammo storage.
Axis would have beat russians. Note that russian build only Fighter Airplanes, Tanks and artillery (which was a fine mix of masses, flexibility,weight, range, calibre). Nonetheless russians survived thx to large supply by western allied. up to 5000 spitfires, medium bombers, 8000 shermans M4A2, TRUCKs etc. The russian infrastructure and logisitics was basically build up by americans. Without that the trucks and other things russian artillery would have been less flexibel and also the fuel supply would have been more complicate. They also had much shorter supply lines at the turning point in 43.
In japans fought not better.... They lacked industrial and US considered Germany as the bigger threat and concentrated first on germany. Thats why japan fought longer and japan had the advantage to be not daily bombed untill US captured some islands mid-end 44 while Germany was already heavily bombed at that time at day and night. I mean japan had not even tanks except small tanks which got outmatched by stuart already. They also had no real Artillery or machinpistols etc.
The biggest advantage of USA was the huge industry and ressources. Not even russians came even close to US production capabilties.